An Honest Discourse, everybody wants one. An attempt to bring some rational thinking, honesty, clarity and meaning to the top issues of the day. Issues included but not limited to are: Politics, Religion, Health, Education, Energy, Civil rights, and our all too brief stay on this planet. EDWARD L. NICE
Sunday, August 16, 2009
PALIN FOR END-OF-LIFE COUNSELING
I just can't make these things up, look it up,
Ed
DEATH PANEL MUSINGS - PART 3
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The specter of government-sponsored, forced euthanasia was raised as early as Nov. 23, just
weeks after the election and long before any legislation had been drafted, by an outlet
decidedly opposed to Mr. Obama, The Washington Times.
In an editorial, the newspaper reminded its readers of the Aktion T4 program of Nazi Germany
in which “children and adults with disabilities, and anyone anywhere in the Third Reich was
subject to execution who was blind, deaf, senile, retarded, or had any significant
neurological condition.”
Noting the “administrative predilections” of the new team at the White House, it urged
“anyone who sees the current climate as a budding T4 program to win the hearts and minds of
deniers.”
AMERICAN SPECTATOR
In January, the socially conservative George Neumayr wrote for the American Spectator:
“Euthanasia is another shovel ready job for Pelosi to assign to the states. Reducing health
care costs under Obama’s plan, after all, counts as economic stimulus, too — controlling
life, controlling death, controlling costs.”
BETSY McCAUGHEY
She warned that a provision in the stimulus bill would create a bureaucracy to “monitor
treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate
and cost-effective,” was carried in a commentary she wrote for Bloomberg News that gained
resonance throughout the conservative media, most notably with Rush Limbaugh and the Fox
News Channel host Glenn Beck. Ms. McCaughey’s article provided another opportunity for
others to raise the specter of forced euthanasia. “Sometimes for the common good, you just
have to say, ‘Hey, Grandpa, you’ve had a good life,’ ” Mr. Beck said.
TOM DASCHLE
Former Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota, an advocate for the health care proposals, said
he was occasionally confronted with the “forced euthanasia” accusation at forums on the
plans, but came to see it as an advantage. “Almost automatically you have most of the
audience on your side,” Mr. Daschle said. “Any rational normal person isn't going to believe
that assertion.”
Mehret Tesfaye posted to the Ethiopian Review | August 16th, 2009 at 12:25 pm this observation :
SARAH PALIN
"Just before midnight, a "note" was posted on Sarah Palin's Facebook page titled,
"Concerning the 'Death Panels.'" Predictably, the media latched onto it and reported her
thoughts. However, there's a problem: there's no way in hell Sarah Palin wrote it.'
"It doesn't even really take a careful examination of the entire note to deduce that it
simply could not have been written by Sarah Palin, which leads one to pretty much dismiss
all of the points it attempts to make. In fact, a cursory glance is more than sufficient to
come to that realization as the note is obviously meticulously researched and footnoted,
appears to be entirely grammatically correct (It even contains semicolons!), presents rather
cogent arguments in a reasoned attempt to persuade, and on the whole is written
articulately. In short, whoever composed this particular note is everything that Sarah Palin
is not: thoughtful, patient, dedicated, thorough, and rational, traits that any casual,
non-delusional observer of Sarah Palin would never, ever associate with her."
( I think I see Billy Kristol in my globe) Ed
That's the truth, you can't make these things up, look it up.
Ed
GLENN BECK LOSING MONEY
THE BIG FIVE AGAINST HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM
FREEDOMWORKS, a Washington-based advocacy group headed by former House majority
leader Richard Armey (R-Tex.) FreedomWorks's major financial backers have included
MetLife, Philip Morris and foundations controlled by the archconservative Scaife
family, according to tax filings and other records. Armey has come under fire from
Democrats for leading FreedomWorks while working at DLA Piper, a firm lobbying on
behalf of New Jersey pharmaceutical company Medicines Co. FreedomWorks features a
quote from Armey on its Web site: "If you are going to go ugly, go ugly early."
CONSERVATIVES FOR PATIENTS' RIGHTS, an anti-reform group, now represented by Brian
Burgess of CRC Public Relations, which coordinated the "Swift Boat" attacks on Sen.
John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004. Brian Burgess confirmed that CPR has been emailing
out "town hall alert" flyers, and schedules of town hall meetings, to its mailing
list. Conservatives for Patients Rights is a front group organized in 2009 by
Richard Scott to fight U.S. president Barack Obama's proposals for health reform.
According to the Politico news site, Scott has raised $20 million to fight health
care reform. Scott previously started the for-profit hospital chain in 1987 that
later became the $23 billion Columbia/HCA. He was ousted from this post in 1997
after an FBI investigation of Columbia/HCA that led to 14 felony convictions and
$1.7 billion in criminal and civil fines for Medicare fraud.
AMERICAN LIBERTY ALLIANCE, lead by Eric Odom, 29, a Chicago Web developer who heads
a fledgling protest group. Now, drawing on more than 40,000 members via e-mail, Odom
tracks hundreds of planned health-care protests by Zip code and uses Facebook and
Twitter to link up activists. Earlier this month, he hosted a conference call with
more than 200 participants.
AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY, an anti-tax and anti-regulation group known for opposing
smoking restrictions and for trying to cast doubt on global warming. The group
launched a project called "Patients First" in June and has been conducting bus tours
around the country to drum up opposition to the health-care legislation.
Public records show that the group is heavily funded by the Koch Family Foundations,
a major contributor to conservative causes headed by two brothers who control Koch
Industries, a Kansas-based oil-and-gas conglomerate. David H. Koch serves as board
chairman of the Americans for Prosperity foundation. Americans for Prosperity
brought a "Patients First" bus emblazoned with a giant red hand and the slogan:
"Hands Off Our Health Care!"
Coming in last but not least, The REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE, (the party of no, we lost, so we are against everything those dirty socialists are doing !)
Friday, August 14, 2009
DEATH PANEL MUSINGS - PART 2
A: It already is.
The government requires hospitals to ask adult patients if they have a living will, or "advance directive." If the patient doesn't have one, and wants one, the hospital has to provide assistance. The mandate on hospitals was instituted during a Republican administration, in 1992, under then-President George H.W. Bush.
That's the truth, look it up.
Ed
Thursday, August 13, 2009
HEALTHCARE REFORM FACT AND FICTION
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/The-Return-of-the-Viral-Email/
There are a lot of links to various items about Healthcare reform.
It's the truth, look it up.
Ed
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
GOP SENATOR DOESN'T LIKE PALIN'S LIES
At long last, a few responsible Republicans are chastising their conservative colleagues for the distortions, exaggerations and outright lies they have used to denounce healthcare reform. (It’s too bad that Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson, usually a thoughtful and fairminded man, cannot be counted in that number. But, according to my colleague Jay Bookman, he can’t.)
The Anchorage Daily News reported that Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski spoke at a public policy forum in Anchorage yesterday, where she rebuked the “deathers,” such as former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who have insisted that “death panels” would be created to decide whether to euthanize the elderly and the handicapped.
The newspaper quoted Murkowski this way: “It does us no good to incite fear in people by saying that there’s these end-of-life provisions, these death panels. Quite honestly, I’m so offended at that terminology because it absolutely isn’t (in the bill). There is no reason to gin up fear in the American public by saying things that are not included in the bill.”
That's the big truth for today, look it up.
Ed